Friday, 9 December 2011

Jonathan's Here!

As promised Jonathan Telfer, editor of Writing Magazine & Writer's News, is (virtually) here to answer our questions. He says he feels he may have gone on a bit of a rant but I know you'll forgive him for that as he's done it just to help us. (Step 9 of competition winningness is read what Jonathan has to say!)

Can you give us an idea how many the magazine runs per year and how many others feature?
Our programme includes 24 short story competitions each year (12 for subscribers and 12 open to all), 9 poetry competitions (3 for subscribers and 6 open to all). We also feature news of 20-30 competitions organised by other people in each issue of the magazine.

Many Writer's News (and other ) competitions seem to have a theme - how closely should we stick to that?
I'll start to answer that by going off at a bit of a tangent! What you want your story to do, whatever the competition, is stand out. Obviously there are various ways to do that.
When you're thinking of what to write to meet a theme, be aware of how easily the idea comes to you, and don't assume it won't come to other writers too. Taking a straightforward approach, or writing the first idea that comes to you, has two possible outcomes: your story will either blend into a flood of entries tackling similar themes in a similar way, or your handling of it will be strong, and the writing so good, that it blows the competition out of the water. The former, sadly, vastly outnumber the latter.
The next imaginative step up is to twist the theme slightly (for example the clichéd man getting dressed and nervous before a wedding turns out to be the vicar). Again, if the idea came to you easily, it will have come to others.

To illustrate these first two approaches, consider the recent subscriber-only "Unlikely couple" competition in Writing Magazine, in which we asked for stories about a 36-year-old college lecturer and 20-year-old delivery van driver. The majority of entries were a love story of some kind, which we'll call the straightforward approach. But the slight twist also yielded a very healthy showing, with a large number of entries in which the two characters were mother and the son she gave up for adoption 16 years ago. And in nearly all of those entries, the pair were thrown together by chance.
Now, I'm not suggesting that any of those entries or approaches are wrong; in isolation they could both yield strong short stories that could well be accepted for publication. But in competition, the judges are looking for the entries with something extra that separates them from the rank and file, which – forgive the repetition, but I really want to emphasise this – could be as simple as just the quality of the writing.

Another approach would be to take a "radical" approach, which ensures your entry will stand out from the pack but has to work hard to justify itself in a theme. And a conservative judge might discount it altogether.
You don't want to be so radical or tenuous that judges and readers have to solve a virtual cryptic crossword to understand how your story fits the theme, so the very best entries are those that find a fresh approach, weave that back into the 'core' theme seamlessly... and display outstanding technique.

Maggie May said "I think I'd like to know from Jonathan if we should write from the heart and then see where it fits. The women's mags are very strict about style, length etc and this can get in the way." What do you think?

What is that the guidelines get in the way of? I'm afraid this looks to be attempting to reconcile two distinct approaches, unless I've missed the point. If you want your story to be published, the worst thing you can do is not to follow their guidelines (this would be true of any fiction market, and probably most non-fiction ones too). If you are aiming to write a story for the joy of writing it, ignore any and all guidelines and just do it the way you want to, but you shouldn't then expect to be able to get it placed.
By all means write from the heart and wait to see where it fits, but you might have a long wait! Or at least a complicated editing/rewriting stage. Imagine your 2,500 word short story is just perfect for an upcoming comp with a 1,000 word limit; or your word count is just right but the theme is slightly off. In both of those cases, I'd suggest starting from scratch would be a much more sensible option.
Which brings me to another thing to avoid for competition themes - shoehorning! Don't take an existing short story that works in its own right, add a brief mention of whatever you need to graze the theme in the first paragraph and assume that's sufficient. Your story is probably still a good one, but it's not meeting the theme so however outstanding it is, it doesn't stand a chance against the best of the ones that weave the theme throughout the story. For example, a theme of baking. You can't have a first paragraph about how "Samantha loved baking", then trot off into a holiday romance story about Sam finding love with a waiter in Brighton.
Have her winning over a customer with the love she pours into her buns; have her using a pizza oven to very slowly turn her murdered husband's bones to ash; even have her finding love with a sunbed rental guy on holiday by baking herself to a crisp in the sun while she tries to catch his eye. These are not necessarily particularly good ideas, but any one of them would do better in a themed comp than that first example.

Kitty is baffled by a complete lack of shortlisting prowess. Do you have any tips for helping her (and me!) make sure our work isn't rejected at the early stages?
Are there any dreadful mistakes we should avoid?
Write well, edit thoroughly, check, check and check again. Follow the rules or guidelines.
You would be amazed how many entries fall at the first hurdle. If the word count is 1,500-1,700 words, 2,500 will not "do". Nor will 1,705, or 1,400. Other reasons for instant dismissal include no entry fee, no contact details, sent in on 39 individual postcards, sent three months after the closing date. And yet they all happen, again and again (okay, maybe not the postcards one).
Bad spelling and grammar are an instant turnoff - if you haven't made the effort to get all this right before you submit, you're not rereading and rewriting enough... Clunky dialogue ("But that was before I decided to undergo that particular operation you spoke of, my darling.")... purple prose... dialogue as exposition ("You know I can't walk on that ankle since the motorbike accident in Malta in 1973.")... intrusive punctuation (too much ellipsis, awkward dashes, any brackets at all)... incomplete sentences...

Meet the theme, write as well as you can, and keep at it. The right conditions for your win will come along eventually.

Do some competitions have less entries than others and if so, would entering those improve our chances?
Generally, we find the more specific a theme, the fewer entries. Very popular ones for us are: crime, ghost, love, etc. (Possibly because a lot of writers have a story tucked away that naturally fits the theme.) Obviously, therefore, competition is not so fierce in some of the other competitions, but they might also be more of a challenge to write for. Get your writing style up to scratch and think hard about the theme and your plotting and you'll be well on the way.


Do you have a top tip for those considering entering a writing competition?
Read it back as if you're the reader; edit ruthlessly; be honest with yourself about what works; slaughter your darlings, repeatedly.



Thanks so much, Jonathan for taking the time and trouble to answer these questions and offer us your advice.


Don't forget to visit the Writying Magazine & Writers' News Website where you'll find more advice, competitions and details of how to subscribe to this excellent magazine!

21 comments:

Lauren F. Boyd said...

Thanks for this interview, you two! Keep up the good work!

And thanks, too, Patsy, for commenting on my blog! It's good to see you!

Deborah Walker said...

Thank you. The comment about the obvious theme was a timely reminder for me. I'm working on a story for an anthology and I'm pretty sure that my take is going to be a common one. Of course it depends on the interpretation, but maybe it's time to think again.

Linda G. said...

Thanks for the great answers to these questions, Jonathan! Much appreciated. :)

Patsy said...

Lauren, Jonathan did all the great work you see here!

Maybe you can give it a unique twist or angle in the interpretation, Deborah?

He's done a great job, hasn't he Linda?

Dan Purdue said...

Thank you, Patsy (and Jonathan!) - some interesting insights there.

I'm always surprised when I hear that people send in stuff that's way over the word count. I can't understand that mentality - particularly for a magazine where it has to fit into a set space. What do they think WM is going to do, print it in a tiny font? Make the magazine bigger specially? Madness.


Dan.

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Old Kitty said...

Hello Patsy and hello Jonathan!! Thank you for answering all our questions and for some insight into how to win competitions!! Guess it's down to being bold, brave, technically perfect and professional!

I love the theme of the older woman and younger man combo! I'd have a story about a woman out to kill the young man who destroyed her daughter! Yikes! I like that!

Take care
x

Diane Fordham said...

Great post Patsy, well done! Thank you Jonathon, lots of great advice there.

Patsy said...

Dan, that surprised me too. Seems if we follow the rules and make use of a spellchecker we'll have a headstart over some of the competition.

Kitty, bold, brave, technically perfect and professional does indeed seem like a winning formula!

Your story idea sounds good - you could still write it for somewhere else.

Glad you found it interesting, Diane.

joanne fox said...

Good solid advice, particularly helpful on how to write to a theme. Thank you Jonathan and Patsy.

Baggy said...

Blimey, Jon's a chatterbox isn't he?

Fascinating article - thanks for doing the hardwork!

Maggie May said...

That was really interesting and thanks for using my question Patsy. I shall have to try harder and harder.

Sarah Pearson said...

This was very enlightening, thank you.

Patsy said...

Hope it comes in useful, Joanne.

He is, Baggy - that makes for easy interviewing!

Maggie, looks like trying harder is the way to go!

It was helpful to me too, Sarah so I'm glad I questioned him.

JJ Cocker said...

Thank you so much for pinning down Jonathan and sharing the knowledge.

jt said...

Thanks all, and especially Patsy. I enjoyed doing this, and I'll look forward to seeing all your entries in our comps (although I won't know they're yours of course!)

Dan - you're quite right, meeting word counts is essential in all competitions, but those entries can't fit our space. The more important point, though, is that it might seem unimportant - a bit of leeway here or there - but allowing those entries through wouldn't be fair to all the other entrants who have gone to the trouble, trimmed and edited their stories to meet the requirements.

Linda King said...

Thank you for that - really useful! I have now subscribed to the magazine and email alerts. Haven't entered any competitions before, but maybe now I will... Thank you for your follow on my blog. Linda

Patsy said...

Jonathan, you'll certainly be seeing some of my entries! Thanks again for popping into my blog and sharing all this great advice.

Good luck with those competitions, Linda.

Seaview said...

Very useful information, thanks for sharing. As a subscriber to WN/WM I have entered several competitions with no wins yet - two shortlisted, mind you, so I'll apply Jonathan's advice and keep going! :)

Marion

Patsy said...

A shortlisting must mean you're very close to getting a prize, Marion - so keep at it!

Seaview said...

I will, Patsy, but one was a short story and the other a poem, so maybe it's a case of 'Jack of all trades'!!!

Patsy said...

And master of haiku!